Room Conversation

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
…three days till you get a little more strength. I mean this is a very good sign, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You’ve taken a half a kilo of milk. No mucus, no stool. If you get a few days of strength… I mean, I have no objection even tomorrow to take you. I just would like to hear what the kavirāja… I really have a little faith on him. I mean I have all faith on you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I have only a little faith on him, but I don’t want to reject his advice as a doctor. This kavirāja is giving sound advice so far.

Prabhupāda:
Where he is?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
We’re just trying to get him here. He went out again to get some more medicine for you. He says now that he’s seen that you took this half kilo of milk he’s going to start to give a medicine that will make this milk make muscles on your body, because all the muscles have become finished, slackened. So he wants to do that so that you’ll then have strength. Parikramming the temple is not so bad. Let’s just see what he says. It’s certainly not that difficult. The main thing is, you have to be able to sit up for some time. [aside:] Prabhupāda wants to become enlivened spiritually, you know, by some spiritual activity. [to Prabhupāda:] We’ll ask the kavirāja if he thinks we can take you tomorrow for a short parikramā around the temple, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Hmm? That would be good.

Anirdeśya-vapu:
I was asking him for medicine. He just got on the phone. I talked to him.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
He’s coming back?

**Anirdeśya-vapu:**Yes. He asked if the kavirāja has come, [indistinct] medicine. I said he’s coming right back. He’s very happy.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
I told him… I couldn’t believe that… I felt so bad, seeing him tonight. He was sitting, Śrīla Prabhupāda, on the fountain steps, completely dejected. Couldn’t understand why. He just was so, so disappointed and unhappy. [pause]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What was cooked for prasāda?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. What?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What did they cook?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Milk, fruits, sweets, grapes. It was good.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Did you like it?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Yes.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Śrīla Prabhupāda, the way you deal with us simply deepens our attachment every moment.

Prabhupāda:
It is my duty. [laughter] There was a professor in Scottish Churches’ College. So when you would say something, he would reply, “That’s my juti,” “juti,” j-u-t-i. [chuckles] So there was a student, he said… So he said, “Is that Scottish pronunciation?” [laughter]

[pause] [break]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
What would you like, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
Pass urine.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Okay. [break]

Prabhupāda:
…properly fixed up?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Is it properly fixed up, Prabhupāda wants to know?

Bhavānanda:
Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda:
Hmm. All right. [pause]

Bhavānanda:
Finished, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
About 40 cc’s, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda:
Hmm.

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. Feeling cold?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Yes, can’t take off the blanket. [background cracker sound] When is Diwalī?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Diwalī? It is today perhaps.]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. It was yesterday.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Diwalī, ours is today, ours is today.]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. Today?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Yes. [smiles.]]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Hmm. Diwalī is celebrated in Bombay in a huge way. Thousands of rupees worth of fireworks are displayed.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. So Mahārāja, now I take your leave?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Why? You stay here tonight, no?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. How will I stay? I didn’t bring my Japa bead.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. I didn’t bring my bead. Let me go. Tomorrow I will come.]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. Do you need the bead now?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Yes, I need. Hare Kṛṣṇa number of rounds have to be done. [smiles]. I am duty bound to follow the regulative principles. Fixed number of rounds have to be completed on beads. Tomorrow is Annakuṭa festival. By 9 o’clock rice etc. have to be ready.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You could have shown these boys and girls how to observe it.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Annakuṭa?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Yes. These boys and girls have to be taught.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. I myself cannot understand all that. They are… All perfection is in the chanting of Govinda’s names. Ihā haite sarva-siddhi haibe sabāra sarva-kṣaṇa bala’ithe vidhi nāhi āra.] [By chanting this mantra you receive all the perfections of life, so continue to chant incessantly, for there are no rules or regulations for chanting the mahā-mantra.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You all could not compromise with the foreigners.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. No compromise? [smile] We have to learn many things from them.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You didn’t bring bedding?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. No.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Something can be done. It comes from all directions.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Yei bhaje sei baḍa,* one who worships the Lord, he is great, bhakti]

[temple bell sounds 9 times.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
It is 9 o’clock.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Massage here little bit.]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. In which leg? Could not understand.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What? What you could not?]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. What you said we could not understand.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Oh.]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. What? Massage?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. If you can give brisk, brisk. Little bit.]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. Babājī Mahārāja, if we give you a new bead, would you be able to stay for now?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Hare Kṛṣṇa.] [Laughter]

Jayapatākā:
[Transl. If we send someone there to drop you.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Let tomorrow’s festival be over then I will come in the afternoon.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Are you comfortable, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
Yes. I want little…

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Little?

Prabhupāda:
My…

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
What is that “my,” Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Jayapatākā:
“My” must mean massage.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Massage? Where, Śrīla Prabhupāda? On your legs?

Prabhupāda:
On the corner of the waist.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Corner of the waist. Both sides?

Prabhupāda:
No, left side.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Hmm?

Prabhupāda:
Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
I’ll put a little oil on? It’s against aching. This is all right.

Prabhupāda:
Brisk.

Upendra:
[indistinct about oil.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
This is that oil you liked for pains…

Upendra:
On the back. You had it on the back.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
…Upendra says. Should I put a little?

Prabhupāda:
Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Okay.

Jayapatākā:
Is this mattress hard for you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
No. It becomes harder, gradually. Hmm. Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Is that all right?

Prabhupāda:
Um-hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
This whole waist area?

Prabhupāda:
Hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
This whole area?

Prabhupāda:
Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Okay.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. We also have festival from 1 o’clock]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. From 1 o’clock?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You won’t come anyway.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. It will also be around 1 o’clock by the time we finish.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Where will you go now?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. I stay in Imlitalā.]

Prabhupāda:
Hmm.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. On every Ekādaśī and Dvādaśī…]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You said Bon Mahārāja has come since three months. Didn’t come here even once.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. No, no he came with me.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. He came with me. I brought him here with me.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Yes.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Yes. I brought him with me. He said I am waiting here you go inside and find out whether we can see Mahārāja. Then I told him Mahārāja is taking rest now, he cannot be disturbed.]

Prabhupāda:
Bon Mahārāja came actually, but he did not come here.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Oh. Where he came to?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
He was waiting in his college.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Oh. Because he did not come here.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
He said that “Go there and whether I will see Mahārāja at this time.”

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
How we can give a fixed time? Actually, it’s better you get a little bit stronger before receiving guests, Śrīla Prabhupāda. If you see him, you will be doing a lot of preaching and talking. He’s still here in Vṛndāvana, Bon Mahārāja?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Yes.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Will he be able to come tomorrow?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Tomorrow? What time?]

Prabhupāda:
Time?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
What time is good, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Ten o’clock?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Tomorrow there is function.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Oh, tomorrow’s function. Day after tomorrow?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Ha, day after tomorrow.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Tomorrow is no good?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Day after tomorrow.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
What time is convenient?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Every day.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
For you, Śrīla Prabhupāda, any time is convenient.

Prabhupāda:
Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Day or night is the same for you now.

Jayapatākā:
[indistinct]

Prabhupāda:
So day after tomorrow.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
We’ll send our car?

Prabhupāda:
Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
We’ll send the car, say about half past eleven?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Half past eleven, yes.

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
Eleven-thirty.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Good time?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Good, good.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Is that all right with you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Half past eleven.

Prabhupāda:
Ask Bābājī [Bon?] Mahārāja.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
You also come. Where will you be?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
I am at Imlitala.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
So first we will pick you up.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You all take prasāda here.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Day after tomorrow Mahārāja, is Giri Mahārājā’s disappearance festival.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes. They will take prasādam here, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Tomorrow is Annakuta and day after tomorrow is Giri Mahārāja’s festival. Giri Mahārāja’s disappearance festival. So I will have to take prasāda there.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Śrīla Prabhupāda? They will take prasādam here? Bhakti-caru Mahārāja cooks very, very first class Bengali prasādam.

Bhavānanda:
Very best.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
They should take here.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You also take here.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. I have to take prasāda at Giri Govardhana.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. That Giri Mahārāja.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. That is also a festival.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Then you fix it up.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Let Friday and Saturday go then on Sunday Evening.]

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
The evening.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
In the evening on Saturday, er, Sunday.

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
On Sunday in the evening.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Sunday evening. That means tomorrow.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
No. Day after tomorrow.

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
Tomorrow is Saturday.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Tomorrow is Saturday. Day after tomorrow. Tomorrow is Saturday? Ācchā.

Prabhupāda:
So you’ll stay there…

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
Yeah, tomorrow is Saturday.

Prabhupāda:
…and they will send car.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
All right. So day after tomorrow, evening. What time?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Evening, any time is right.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Six o’clock. You tell Bon Mahārāja, say, at… We will pick you up earlier.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
No, I’ll come to Bon Mahārāja.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Ācchā. Then five-thirty.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
At five-thirty.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Is that all right? Yes? And they will take prasādam here, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Ācchā. So make it even a little later, say six-thirty.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
Six-thirty. Not six-thirty; five-thirty.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Hmm? Five-thirty’s better. Okay. Ṭhike. Five-thirty.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You fixed the time.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. I will be ready.] [laughing] Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bhakti-caru Mahārāja, you have to make nice prasādam Sunday evening.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Then I take your leave Mahārāja.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Yes.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. So you are staying here tonight?]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. No. Let me go.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Alright. I escort you.]

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī:
[Transl. Tomorrow is Annakuta.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
[aside:] He’s going now? So we will take him back. You arrange. Okay.

Jayapatākā:
[indistinct] come also?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
He’ll come. Anudeśa, you arrange for the car also. Help Bhakti-caru. Is this giving you a little relief, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
Yes. Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Massaging your legs are Bhavānanda Mahārāja and Girirāja.

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
I was just praying to Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. [pause]

Prabhupāda:
Soda water?

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
Bol, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda:
The soda water sound.

Bhavānanda:
Soda water?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Soda water?

Prabhupāda:
You don’t hear the sound of soda water?

Bhavānanda:
Yes, I do. Oh, that’s the water bucket. [whispers:] Someone was boiling water.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Some water was boiling, Śrīla Prabhupāda. That was the sound of boiling water.

Jayapatākā:
There’s water boiling in this room too.

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
Upendra must be boiling some water.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
In America people always keep the teapot boiling. So similarly, here, Upendra, he always keeps a pot of water boiling, Śrīla Prabhupāda. He is always ready to serve you with warm water. Whenever you need warm water… So that’s one of the things. Always there is some water boiling here. You must be very tired today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You’ve done a great deal of talking. [pause] [break] [end]