Room Conversation

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No appetite.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Little, little Mahārāja. Keep little patience. The medicine that I gave today will bring appetite. If you take little by little, you will not feel weakness. This is very important.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. I will take.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Little more,]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. More?]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Yes. Little more.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Why don’t you feel my pulse…?]

Kavirāja:
Hun.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. …How long it will beat?]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. How long? That has to go on for many years. [pause] There is no fall in the pulse rate. With little bit of taste if you start taking little rice…]

Prabhupāda:
Hun.

Kavirāja:
[Transl. If you feel like taking rice, you take rice, or if you like Dāliyā made of cracked wheat. With warm water cleanse the eyes.]

[background conversation about bathing Prabhupāda]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
We do it about two times a day with a towel.

Kavirāja:
[Transl. If you like to use Rose water.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Mixing it with water?]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. You can put little Rose water in the eyes.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Rose water? Water?

[indistinct comments by Upendra]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Now you have no desire to go on parikramā? Svāmījī?]

Prabhupāda:
Hun?

Kavirāja:
[Transl. You are a very brave person.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. I have a desire to go.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. You have a desire, but physical condition does not enable you. This is the fact. Actually if the medicines for energy are taken 2 times a day then in three days time you will go on parikramā.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Let us see.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
You have to give Prabhupāda some strength to go on the parikramā.

Svarūpa Dāmodara:
He said in three days.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Three days. That’s good.

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Water comes out from his eyes.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Yes.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Do like this, do you put anything in the eyes?]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Rose water]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Rose water is good. Rose water and now I will go and bring some Triphalā. You mix it with water and wash his eyes for one or two days. Your work must be going on even in this condition. Isn’t it?]

Prabhupāda:
Hun.

Kavirāja:
[Transl. From inside it goes on all the time.]

Prabhupāda:
Hun.

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Now you get well soon. And we will take you to Mayāpura. You kindly give us some hope. We are trying, we are only nimitta mātraṁ or an instrument. [To Bhakti-cāru: For his meal today you give him some rice, if he likes rice.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. No, Actually today we have prepared some chapātī and dāl. Dāl is watery and chapātīs are thin.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Yes. That is good. Give him]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
But whether Prabhupāda will eat some?

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Will he eat like that?]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Yes, why won’t he eat?]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Prabhupāda, you will try to eat the Gujarati roṭī and dāl?

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Hmm. I have a desire.] [everyone smiles]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. You have a desire then you must eat. It will be digested. If you have desire then the food will surely be digested.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Today he doesn’t seem to have any difficulty.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Yes, no difficulty. This pain, in his left side that I checked before was due to constipation. But now there is no stool blocked in the stomach.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Yes, you were saying that.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. The stool gets stuck. It gets blocked in the colon. In the colon it remains hidden.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. I see.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. On that day it was blocked. But after three four motions the stomach was cleared. Now he will slowly start digesting his foods. We will give him little, little food every day and that way he will slowly develop appetite for food. Today what we will do is, get some Punārṇava and we will make some salt. You know the rock salt that is used on fasting days.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Yes.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. We will use that salt for hm. It will increase his appetite. You give him food but he has no appetite for the food. You understand? Salt is such a thing that, if taken regularly, it will gradually increase one’s appetite and taste for food.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Even after giving salt he has no appetite.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. No. He will have. He will diffinitely have appetite from inside, he will relish the food better and his tongue will have better taste of food. Though he does not care for all this, he takes as he likes, the liquid that we are giving, that should be continued. The ark he is taking creates fire in his stomach. Two times with medicine and one time normally. For tomorrow morning I have prepared and brought for him a kind of chutney called Kuśāvalī.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Okay.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. When the brāhmaṇas sit down and perform their morning pūjā and prayers, they sit on Kuśa grass mat. That is the best medicine for kidney. Punārṇava, tṛṇa pañcamūla, that Kuśa and Sardāv mixed together and prepared as a chutney. That I will start from tomorrow. I have also changed the medicines. Keep both the prescriptions safely. The previous one which I gave and this one I am giving today. I have mentioned the names of the medicines for today. You have seen, no?]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Yes. I have already given him one dose.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. No. Today I have prescribed different medicine. Did you give from that?]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Yes.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Check all the medicines.]

[indistinct background comments by devotees on when Prabhupāda last ate and what to give him]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. So now Svāmījī, your condition is, Śrī Kṛṣṇa tells Uddhava in the 11th Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, samṛddha-kāmo hīno vā / nārāyaṇa-paro muniḥ / notsarpeta na śuṣyeta / saridbhir iva sāgaraḥ] [Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam11.8.6]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Hmm. Tell the meaning.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. This means one who becomes a devotee of Lord Viṣṇu—Lord Kṛṣṇa, he is samṛddha-kāmo hīno vā, whether he is fully surrendered or not fully surrendered, such a person notsarpeta na śuṣyeta does not increase when he eats and does not decrease when he does not eat. If one argues how is it possible? [Transl. The rivers flow into the ocean, but the ocean does not swell up, and if no rivers or water enter into the ocean it does not decrease even an inch, that kind of situation you have made for yourself now. For a few months now, this programme is going on. Last 3/4/5 months, sometimes you are eating and sometimes you are not eating. This body which is made of five gross elements, to maintain it one has to eat something or other.]

[Transl. Last four months the situation has been like this, still the heart is working, the colon is working. There is no disturbance. Today I happened to remember this verse from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and thought that Svāmījī’s condition is also like that. If he eats, it’s alright, and if he doesn’t eat, it’s also alright. But you should take something little by little. I am speaking according to our Vedic literatures and not from spiritual consideration. [pause] Now you don’t have cough no? Do you cough?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No, only occasionally]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. The other day when you had motion, was there any sound in the stomach? Was there?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Not like that.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. When you passed stool, did you feel uneasiness or did you feel weakness?]

Prabhupāda:
Hum

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Felt weakness?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No, Little bit.]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. What?]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. He felt little uneasy while passing stool. It happens like that.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Now…]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. What?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Perhaps I passed only yesterday stool.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. Stool? One time?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Yes.]

Kavirāja:
[Transl. To pass one time is alright. Although not much solid food is going inside, only liquid is going in the stomach. Still there is formation and passing of stool like a normal healthy person. This proves that your intestines are working.]

[pause] [break]

Bhakti-cāru:
[Transl. Śrīla Prabhupāda? I have brought some pomegranate juice. Will you take?]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
…Gujarati roṭīs?

Prabhupāda:
Hmm.

Guest:
[Transl. If you want to eat something, we can prepare for you.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What are the items can you make?]

Guest:
[Transl. My wife is there. She knows how to cook all kinds of foodstuffs. Gujarāti food, Mung dāl, Arhar dāl, Rice, Khichri. Anything you want to eat. She cooks everything. Nice purīs she makes. We can make soft foodstuffs for you. Whatever is suitable for you, Sweet-rice…]

Prabhupāda:
Hmm.

Guest:
[Transl. …pickle, chutney or any fried food.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Cook something little.]

Guest:
[Transl. Okay. We will cook something for you. When you feel hungry, let us know, we will come and cook for you. Then you want to…]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Puā, Pakodi?]

Guest:
[Transl. You want to eat?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Do you know?]

Guest:
[Transl. Yes]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Hmm. Mālpuā I can take.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Mālpura.

Guest:
[Transl. Mālpuā she knows how to make. She will prepare very nice soft Mālpuā for you.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
You want to try some mālpuras later on tonight?

Guest:
[Transl. For tonight?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. I will tell you.]

Guest:
[Transl. Okay. When you tell we will make. If you want hot and spicy food, we will make for you. Today we cooked simple food, because we didn’t know whether you will take simple food or spicy food.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No, no. This is alright.]

Guest:
[Transl. This is okay? So we will cook like this.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Puā and Chivdā are very famous in Gujarat.]

Guest:
[Transl. Yes. We also prepare Chivdā and Malpuā. Do you eat Śrīkhand?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What is Śrīkhand?]

Guest:
[Transl. Śrīkhand is made from yogurt and mixed with cardamom powder…]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Śrīkand. That’s very good for you, Śrīla Prabhupāda, Śrīkand.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Oh, Śrīkhand.]

Guest:
[Transl. We call it Śrīkhand.]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
That’s a good preparation for you, Śrīla Prabhupāda, very nutritious.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. As you know make it]

Devotee:
[Transl. Okay. I will make it. You should take little, little food every day. By eating your health will improve quickly. Any time you feel like, whether day or night, I will cook for you.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You all are ready to serve me.]

Guest:
[Transl. What?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. You all are doing so much service.]

Guest:
[Transl. No. Our service is not good enough. We are not even equal to your feet dust. Please forgive us.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. So, where is Baradrāj?]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Baradrāj is here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda:
So you can sing.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda:
Softly.

Baradrāj:
Softly. [break] [end]