Morning Walk

Prabhupāda:
…to live like them, to dance like them, to dress like them, to smoke like them, to stand like them. [laughter]

Hari-śauri:
What… Baḍā? That means?

Prabhupāda:
Baḍā-sāb. Baḍā-sāb—big master.

Hari-śauri:
Oh, big master.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:
Sāhīb or sāb?

Prabhupāda:
The word is sāhīb, but short cut, sāb.

[break] …standing for twelve years here? No.

Hari-śauri:
No, he’s show-biz, show-business. [break]

Devotees:
Hare Kṛṣṇa, good morning.

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Somehow or other that should be solved and rest of the time engage in the service of the Supreme Lord.]

Indian man:
[Transl. That is human life.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Otherwise, roaming like hogs here and there whole life “Where is money, where is money,” that is not human life. That is what is taught nowadays. Work very hard, have sex, and enjoy life-modern civilisation.] This is modern civilization. [Transl. Not modern, it’s always been there. Work hard, eat all nonsense and enjoy sex. That’s all. That is wanted. No interest in the purpose of life. They are not taught also. They are kept in the hog’s mentality. The sāśtra forbids this,] nāyaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛ-loke kaṣṭān kāmān arhate viḍ-bhujāṁ ye [SB. 5.5.1]. Don’t be hogs. Be human beings. This is hog civilization. [Transl. Work hard whole day look for stool and eat it. And when it is fat have sex with mother, sister, daughter, no discrimination. This is hog’s business. That is why it is called hog. Why is one addressed as a hog? It works whole day, eats stool and as soon as it becomes healthy it indulges in sex. This is hog’s life. In India or everywhere one is condemned as a hog, why? His life is like that.]

Indian man:
[Transl. Son of a pig, they say.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Yes. They work hard day and night, eat stool, and as they become little fat immediately] sex. Don’t care whether he’s mother, sister or daughter. No, no. This is going on.]

Indian man:
[Transl. The character of Indians has degraded so much Prabhupāda.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Must be degraded.]

Indian man:
[Transl. Very much. Where we were staying with the devotees people would be staring at the girls only and never at the devotees or in the chanting of the Lord’s name. The same thing in Agra and Delhi also. Now there are many shops for selling meat there. Before, these things were not in public.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No. They sell secretly.]

Indian man:
[Transl. In Gujarat they sell secretly nowadays. Once people found out and they were very angry.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. In Bengal they call them ‘du kāna kāṭā.’ One man’s ear was cut off. So he used to always hide it by keeping that ear in the river side. When his both ears are cut off then what to hide? [laughter] You see this side that side both ears are cut off. These rascals both ears are cut off. No question of hiding. What can be done?]

Indian man:
[Transl. It is understandable that they don’t know anything. They are engaged in their own ways of life. Some are drunkards, some are this or that. They don’t know about the higher taste. If they understand the higher taste and give up everything then they feel strange. So are there any cultural trainings or something that can guide them to adopt a good path or stop them from being sinful?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What culture?]

Indian man:
[Transl. Every person, when he takes up devotional service or comes in the association of devotees, he automatically develops a higher taste, so much so that he begins to feel sense gratification inferior and starts to hate it. The point is that everyone wants it but…]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No, they don’t want. Had they wanted, it would have taken only one minute.]

Indian man:
[Transl. But the means and facilities…]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Everything is there. But the rascals won’t take it.]

Indian man:
[Transl. They don’t know anything. They have no knowledge.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. No knowledge, therefore they should have associated with sādhus. Even from distance. That’s why we open centres. Go and live there and learn. But the rascals won’t come.]

Indian man:
[Transl. They have no saṁskāra

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What saṁskāra these people had? What saṁskāra? Mlecchas, yavanas.]

Indian man:
[Transl. Unless something is there from before…]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What was there was there. Now you are being offered. Before you were poor, now you take money. Why don’t you take it? And these rascals say that when we will have saṁskāra we will take. Money is being offered and you say when I will have saṁskāra I will take it. This is all nonsense.]

Indian man:
[Transl. It requires devotee association, Prabhupāda. And devotee association is obtained by good fortune.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. It happens by good fortune. If you don’t have good fortune then when you are being offered why don’t you take it? That is the reason preaching is required. That you didn’t have good fortune, now take it. If one is fortunate he will surely come. And one who is not fortunate he too will come. That’s why preaching. When you are being offered without your asking then just take it. What is the question of good fortune?] Why you hesitate? [Transl. Running far away. Despite begging they won’t take. Such asses.]

Indian man (2):
[Transl. When will you come to Montreal?]

Indian man:
[Transl. He has come from Montreal.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Let us see when the Supreme Lord desires.]

Indian man (2):
[Transl. I humbly request to come soon.]

Indian man:
[Transl. Prabhupāda, are you constructing a big temple in Delhi?]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. Big temples we can construct all over the world, but there should be enough persons to serve.]

Indian man:
[Transl. I think there is just a small temple there. Population is huge in Delhi. Connaught Place is the worst area by the way. People don’t have devotion. Actually those who come from villages outside Delhi, they usually visit Birla mandir. So we should have a nice temple there.]

Prabhupāda:
[Transl. What is the use of coming to the temple if they don’t understand the philosophy? Hare Kṛṣṇa. Without sādhu-saṅga these things are not possible.] [break]

[in car]

Satsvarūpa:
…that we have to stick to the tradition. Tat-tat-karma-pravartanāt. [Upadeśāmṛta 3] Then… Not just by mystical devotion.

Prabhupāda:
There is no proper guide. They manufacture ideas, that’s all. Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ [Bg. 4.2], that path is not there.

[break] …name? I forgot

Satsvarūpa:
Gene. [the priest who joined in LA]

Prabhupāda:
Gene.

Satsvarūpa:
Yes. [break]

Prabhupāda:
…building or something…

Viśvakarmā:
Yes, it’s a very big exhibit, scientific achievements.

[break] …come and see it. [break]

Prabhupāda:
…their achievement, no more death? As soon as you ask this question, māthā kare heṅṭa. Baḍa baḍa bāndarera baḍa baḍa peṭa laṅkā ḍiṅgāite saba māthā kare heṅṭa. “Big, big monkey, big, big belly, Ceylon jumping, melancholy.” [laughs] What scientific advancement? Ask them. Do you think there will be no more death? Māthā kare heṅṭa: “Yes, we are trying. Yes.” Nonsense, “What is your achievement?” All achievement will be, remain in your back, and you’ll have to die. So what you have done, insurance, that you’ll enjoy this? You’ll be kicked out of the scene at any moment. What you have done for this? What is the answer? Māthā kare heṅṭa: “Yes, we are trying.” [laughter] Nonsense, you are trying. And we have to see this nonsense. We are not so fool. And if they say, “What you are doing?” “Yes, we are doing that. How to conquer over death.” Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti, mām eti* [Bg. 4.9].

That is we are trying. That is real scientific. Eh? What is method? Very simple: man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru mām evaiśyasi asaṁśayaḥ [Bg. 18.68]: “Without any doubt, he comes to Me.” This is science. Why shall I waste time? [break]

Svarūpa Dāmodara challenged one scientist in California that “If I give you the chemicals, can you manufacture life?” He said, “That I cannot say.” What you have spoken all this nonsense? Māthā kare heṅṭa. And when there is challenge, māthā kare heṅṭa. Otherwise, baḍa baḍa bāndarera, baḍa baḍa peṭa, big, big monkey, big, big belly. And when the real question is there, māthā kare heṅṭa. Ceylon jumping, melancholy. Hanumān jumped over the ocean, so other monkeys, they also become very proud: “I am…, Hanumān is our leader. We can…,” “Can you jump over Ceylon?” Māthā heṅṭa.

[break] …speak all these things, Indian villagers, they will immediately believe. One cobbler… I think I narrated this story. Nārada Muni was going to Vaikuṇṭha. Did I say that?

Hari-śauri:
I think this story’s in Rāja-vidyā, that small book. The one about the brāhmaṇa and the cobbler?

Prabhupāda:
[laughs] Yes. Cobbler immediately believed when he was informed by Nārada Muni that “I saw God is pulling one elephant through the hole of a needle, this side and again this side.” The brāhmaṇa did not believe it. And as soon as the cobbler—he was also devotee—he heard, oh, he began to pray, “Oh, my Lord can do anything.” So Nārada Muni, “You believed it?” “Yes, why not?” “How do you believe it?” “I am daily seeing. I am underneath the tree, and so many figs are dropping, and each fig has got thousands of seeds, and in each seed there is another tree. Why should I not believe it?” He did not believe it blindly. With reason. And he gave immediately reason: “When I see this fig tree, big fig tree, and there are millions of figs dropping, and in each fig there are millions of seeds, and each seed there is… Why shall I not believe it?” So nothing is impossible by God, everything.

Satsvarūpa:
The brāhmaṇa was supposed to be learned in the Vedas.

Prabhupāda:
Ah, yes. And he said, “These are all…,” what is called? Mythology. Why mythology? Why do you think God like you? God is all-powerful; He can do anything. That is real faith. That means you have no faith. “If God can do which tallies with my activities, then I shall believe.” What you are? Nonsense. This is their general argument. How we can believe this? And why not believe this? You are seeing so many wonderful things. I gave this example to another man, that there is a coconut tree. Now find out where is the pipe and pumping so that the water is pushed. Show me. You have no idea that such a high height, how water is going there, and full of water. How the water is transferred there? Show me the pipe and pump. You have got the idea, that with pipe and pump we can raise the water. Where is that pipe and pump? Show me. Every day, every moment, we are seeing so many wonderful things. How you are thinking… “I am Dr. Frog. Pacific Ocean may be four feet. All right, five feet. Make compromise, ten feet.” [laughter] Rascal. If you think for many millions of years, then you’ll have no solution. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo [Bs. 5.34]. It is not possible in that way. They have no idea of God.

Hari-śauri:
Everything is there, but actually they don’t see.

Prabhupāda:
Because they are not devotee. Paśyanti jñāna-cakṣuṣā. [Bg. 15.10] Mām ebhyaḥ param. Mūḍhā nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ parama-avyayam [Bg. 7.13]. Paraṁ bhāvam ajānantaḥ. Paraṁ bhāvam ajānantaḥ [Bg. 7.24]. They have no knowledge.

Satsvarūpa:
They think that if they follow, they’ll still be misled. “Why should I believe? It may not be true.”

Prabhupāda:
But you are already misled. Why not be second time misled? You are already misled, thousand times. Why not try once more? You are making so much arrangement to live comfortably, but you are kicked out. Are you not misled? Bahir-artha-māninaḥ [SB. 7.5.31]. You are thinking that by adjustment of this external energy, you will be able to live very happily. Is it possible? You are trying, problem after problem, problem after problem. So you are already misled.

Satsvarūpa:
You’ve said, “Just give this one life to Kṛṣṇa. You’ve misgambled so many lives. Why not give one to Kṛṣṇa?”

Prabhupāda:
You are misled already so many lives. All right, be misled another life. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja [Bg. 18.66].

Hari-śauri:
They’re taking a photo today for the BTG, so they’d like if you would pose for five minutes.

Prabhupāda:
Why not? [end]