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Room Conversation

12 May 1976HonoluluRoom conversation760512r1.hon

First of all, where did he get this idea, not to trust me?

Prabhupāda:
First of all, where did he get this idea, not to trust me? For everything responsible.

Govinda dāsī:
So that’s what I was trying to ask.

Prabhupāda:
Huh?

Govinda dāsī:
That’s what I was trying to ask.

Prabhupāda:
Hmm? For everything responsible.

Govinda dāsī:
That was the reason that I was trying to ask those questions.

Prabhupāda:
He has become impersonal. That’s all. He is simply out of the jurisdiction of personal care. The guru is personal or Kṛṣṇa is impersonal? Our guru is personal and Kṛṣṇa is personal. He is impersonal.

Govinda dāsī:
He speaks of the guru principle and that his spiritual master is within his heart, and that…, and he doesn’t accept the personal service of the physical manifestation.

Prabhupāda:
He does not understand. Don’t [indistinct]. Who cares for his philosophy?

Govinda dāsī:
Not for very long. I am simply concerned for him.

Prabhupāda:
That is natural, but if he wants to spoil himself, then how can you save him?

Govinda dāsī:
Yes.

Prabhupāda:
If he wants to commit suicide, then who can save him? He will do it, at any time.

Devotee:
He’s downstairs. You want him?

Prabhupāda:
What he doing?

Devotee:
I don’t know. I stay up here during ārati in case you mean…

Prabhupāda:
Call him.

Govinda dāsī:
Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. [end]