Lecture
When father loves child, that is not forced; that is reality.
Prabhupāda:
…incidences are so described that anyone can remember. And by remembering these incidences, he becomes liberated. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Indian man:
One thing I want to know, you see, when He was Supreme God, why He created all these līlās? When…, suppose He was sent…
Prabhupāda:
What do you mean by Supreme God?
Indian man:
Er, He was the Lord of universe. All the…
Prabhupāda:
So He cannot do that?
Indian man:
No, He can do it.
Prabhupāda:
Then?
Indian man:
That is…, so He has done. But as He sent Uddhava to Vṛndāvana to know about condition of Vṛndāvana people, even He was God, He knew it, no?
Prabhupāda:
No, that is affection.
Indian man:
Hmm?
Prabhupāda:
That is affection. Just like you go to your friend, you know what he is; still you ask, “How are, you are?”
Indian man:
Yes.
Prabhupāda:
This is natural.
Indian man:
Then he’ll answer. Very affection
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Indian man:
But He had also… When He was God, why He had some affection also like that?
Prabhupāda:
Oh, that you must know.
Indian man:
Māyā… I, I, I say to māyā.
Prabhupāda:
No, it is not. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā has got the meaning of affection. Māyā means illusion; māyā means energy; māyā means affection. Just like we say māyā…, chele rupar[?] māyā. That is affection.
Indian man:
[Hindi] affection.
Prabhupāda:
So māyā means affection.
Indian man:
But when He was born, why should He have māyā? When He is the Supreme God, [Hindi]?
Prabhupāda:
[Hindi] Can you control God? By your wording, He’ll not be affected by māyā.
Indian man:
No, that means I have…
Prabhupāda:
That is God. That is God. He can do anything. He is not under your rules and regulation. Māyā…, māyā…, māyā means… Māyā means…, māyā mukta [Cc. Madhya 24.136] means the illusion. When the māyā is illusion, you have to get you out it. But when the…
Indian man:
But what is the difference between the illusion and māyā?
Prabhupāda:
Illusion is forced. But affection is not forced. When father loves child, that is not forced; that is reality. [break] [end]