Morning Walk, partially recorded

**Morning Walk

• [Partially Recorded]** —
  March 28, 1974, Bombay**

Prabhupāda: …incidences are so described that anyone can remember. And by remembering these incidences, he becomes liberated. That is Kṛṣṇaconsciousness.

Indian man: One thing I want to know, you see, when He was Supreme God, why He created all these* līlās*? When…, suppose He was sent…

Prabhupāda: What do you mean by Supreme God?

Indian man: Er, He was the Lord of universe. All the…

Prabhupāda: So He cannot do that?

Indian man: No, He can do it.

Prabhupāda: Then?

Indian man: That is…, so He has done. But as He sent Uddhava to Vṛndāvana to know about condition of Vṛndāvana people, even He was God, He knew it, no?

Prabhupāda: No, that is affection.

Indian man: Hmm?

Prabhupāda: That is affection. Just like you go to your friend, you know what he is; still you ask, “How are, you are?”

Indian man: Yes.

Prabhupāda: This is natural.

Indian man: Then he’ll answer. Very affection

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Indian man: But He had also… When He was God, why He had some affection also like that?

Prabhupāda: Oh, that you must know.

Indian man: *Māyā… *I, I, I say to māyā.

Prabhupāda: No, it is not. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā has got the meaning of affection. Māyā means illusion; māyā means energy; māyā means affection. Just like we say māyā…, chele rupar [?] māyā. That is affection.

*Indian man: [Hindi] affection.

Prabhupāda: So māyā means affection.

Indian man: But when He was born, why should He have māyā? When He is the Supreme God, [Hindi]?

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Can you control God? By your wording, He’ll not be affected by māyā.

Indian man: No, that means I have…

Prabhupāda: That is God. That is God. He can do anything. He is not under your rules and regulation. Māyā…, māyā…, māyā means… Māyā means…, māyā mukta [Cc Madhya 24.136] means the illusion. When the māyā is illusion, you have to get you out it. But when the…

Indian man: But what is the difference between the illusion and māyā?

Prabhupāda: Illusion is forced. But affection is not forced. When father loves child, that is not forced; that is reality. [break] [end]